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In SDNY Hall Dershowitz Says Guiffre Lied About Al Gore Whom Boies Could Have Asked

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SDNY COURTHOUSE, Dec 2 – In the lawsuit of Virginia Giuffre against Alan Dershowitz, after a half hour long discovery conference on December 2, Inner City Press asked Dershowitz how long he and his team wants for their deposition of Giuffre.

   "As long as it takes," was the answer. Dershowitz stood in the hall rattling off Giuffre's age at differing points, saying that Mar-a-Lago's spa is closed in the summer so that by the Fall of 2000 Giuffre must have been 17 and a few months, "over the age of consent in New York."

     Two members of his team tried to urge him toward the elevator. But Dershowitz continued, saying Giuffre lied about Al Gore being on Epstein's island and that David Boie's could have called his client, Gore, and asked. He cited Secret Service records that he said show that an allegation about Bill Clinton could not be true. More on Patreon here.  

Inside the courtroom of U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York Judge Loretta A. Preska, as live-tweeted by Inner City Press, the back and forth included:

Judge Preska started with questions on alleged sexual trafficking of Giuffre by Dershowitz, with Epstein... After the issue of whether Dershowitz has had sex with anyone other than his wife calls outside relevance standards, Judge Preska added "Or propriety." She calls Dershowitz' counter-claim sweeping and its forthcoming filings "Massive, no doubt."

Cited: the discovery in the Giuffre v. Maxwell case. Note: Ghislaine Maxwell was given the UN press briefing room to promote her business, something Inner City Press asked the UN about before being banned from the UN.

 "In addition to Ms. Giuffre, another young woman has claimed she had sex with Mr. Dershowitz as part of the same operation."  The same operation?

Judge Preska: "Lying was part of the defamation claim... I'm not sure why you're telling me this."  Using air quotes, Judge Preska refers to the "conspiracy to extort theory."  Back to earth: "We're talking the the scope of discovery here." Yes.

Dershowitz' lawyer: "We will need to take depositions about the truth defense... And the the photograph of Prince Andrew, if we need to determine if it is a fake or not, we will need an expert."  Judge Preska: Do not spend any more on experts until we talk again.

 "Counsel has mentioned this New York Times article of yesterday, which mention conversations--"  "Happy to produce it. The entirety of the episode between Mr. Kessler and the lawyer."  Judge Preska: Does plaintiff have any recordings? Let's get going here.

Judge Preska: This is not going to go on forever. This is not going to be the book for my good friends the reporters to write.  Dershowitz' lawyer: Sorry to interrupt, your Honor, but we've been trying to get previous testimony about Ms. Giuffre's travel schedule

Judge Preska: We're not going to disclose the transcript publicly without further discussion. I think I'd propose that your initial disclosure including the dates of travel, so you can know what we're dealing with.

 Raised: Is the Maxwell deposition covered by the protective order? Judge Preska: What else, friends? Two weeks? Let me know if you want to come in and chat. Will plaintiff be amending?  Yes. We're going to add additional allegations on defamation of the same ilk   Judge Preska: Why do we need to amend to get in these statements of the same ilk, other than to get them out there?  Giuffre's lawyer: Because they are in a book. They are fresh defamatory statements.

 Dershowitz' lawyer: We think she was not a child and so can't avail herself of the state statute...  Giuffre's lawyer: We are going to add a new claim about the recording.  Judge Preska: Does plaintiff have standing? I thought it was Mr. Boies who was recorded.

 Judge Preska: File no motion before it's time... Question: there's no additional discovery triggered by the state court claims? Delaying discovery is not wise. What else?

 Dershowitz's lawyer: I don't know how we could do the deposition of Ms. Giuffre in one day... We will serve a subpoena on Mr. Boies, about the crime-fraud exception [also came up in #OneCoin trial

Judge Preska: I would very much like to stay in contact, the Acela is easy. What else do you want to do today?  Giuffre's lawyer introduces 3 colleagues.  And nothing more. It was over, for the day. [Except for the hallway stakeout, above.]

  The SDNY case is  Giuffre v. Dershowitz, 19-cv-3377 (Preska).


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