| In Jan 6
Case Copeland Will Stay Detained,
Pre-Trial Concerned At Utah / AZ Areas,
Body Armor
By Matthew
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FEDERAL COURT,
Sept 10 -- On May 6,
well
over a
month after
the DC
Circuit's
decision in US
v. Munchel, Magistrate Judge
Robin M.
Meriweather
held a series
of proceedings
including with
Utah's Landon
Kenneth Copeland.
Inner
City Press
live tweeted
it here
and below.
On
May 28, when
Inner City Press
called in to cover
the follow up,
Judge
Meriweather
nearly immediately
sealed the
proceeding,
and callers
were kicked
off with no
information if
the proceeding
would go
public after
discussion
of mental
health.
Now on
September
10, Judge
Meriweather held
another lengthy
proceeding,
including
testimony
about
Pre-Trial
Services fears
of areas
in Utah and
Arizona, and
kept Copeland
detained.
Inner City
Press live
tweeted it here:
Assistant
US Attorney:
Mr. Copeland
has repeatedly
referred to
pre-trial
detention as
unconstitutional.
This shows he
would not
comply with
conditions.
Also, he
drives without
a license and
uses marijuana
to
self-medicate.
AUSA:
Mr. Copeland
said, "I would
eat your flesh
for nutrients"
- then said
that was
covered by the
First
Amendment.
That's
patently
ridiculous.
When he heard
"Foxitis" he
took this
court's
failure to say
something as
evidence that
this court is
biased
AUSA:
Even if
"Foxitis" was
ridiculous,
Mr. Copeland
should have
brushed it
off. His
combat with
police lasted
for several
minutes. We
believe that
his pre-trial
release should
be revoked.
AUSA:
Mr. Copeland
compared
himself and
other rioters
to George
Floyd, which
is offensive.
He started
every fight he
was in. This
case is
different from
Munchel and
Tanios, given
Mr. Copeland's
assaultive
conduct. [DOJ
said different
*during*
Tanios'
proceedings]
Judge
Meriweather:
If I am to
decide this on
revocation
grounds, I'll
need to build
a record on
the incidents
with Pre-Trial
Officer
Dalton. AUSA:
I'll question
him. He
threatened
you? Dalton:
Yes.
Voice:
Why don't we
put him under
oath? Judge
Meriweather: I
don't think
that is
required for
Pre-Trial or
Probation.
[That is not
the case
here
@SDNYLIVE
- Judge
Richard M.
Berman, for
example,
always has
Probation
Officers put
under oath]
Inner
City Press
@innercitypress
· 1h AUSA:
Let's move
ahead with
events of May
6. When did
you have
conduct with
him? Dalton:
When the
hearing was
put on mute he
called me and
said he wanted
his voice
heard.
AUSA:
How did he
sound to you?
Dalton:
Erratic. He
said he was on
the edge of
cliff. Mr.
Copeland
stated that I
need to let
the court know
that I need to
be heard, it
is my right to
be heard.
AUSA: What did
you do?
Dalton:
Mr. Copeland
hung up.
Pre-Trial
Services
Officer
Dalton: Mr.
Copeland
called back
and said he
was on the way
to our office.
We called the
Marshals in
case he came.
We put on our
body armor and
made sure our
doors were
locked.
AUSA:
If case the
court is not
familiar with
Southern Utah
geography,
please explain
where he
lives. Dalton:
It's on the
border of Utah
& Arizona.
We have no
services out
there. He'd
have to go
into town.
AUSA: There's
no GPS there?
Dalton: No.
It's a rural
area
AUSA:
Why is Federal
law
enforcement
unwelcome
there?
Defense: I
object. Judge
Meriweather:
We're not
ascribing this
to Mr.
Copeland. It's
just a
question of
what Pre-Trial
would
encounter
there. Dalton:
It is a
religious
community.
FLDS, an
offshoot.
Update:
DDC Magistrate
Meriweather
has been off a
looong time.
She just said
she'll be
ready to
resume in 5
minutes.
Judge
Meriweather:
After Munchel,
I would have
to find that
Mr. Copeland
poses a danger
of violence
after January
6. Was the
conduct on
January 6 an
aberration?
And, after
Chief Judge
Howell's
decision in
Chrestman, was
there planning
and
coordination?
Judge
Meriweather:
Mr. Copeland
is not accused
of having a
leadership
role, he
seemed to be
part of the
crowd. But he
struggled with
law
enforcement
officers. This
weighs in
favor of
pre-trial
detention.
There is video
footage.
Judge
Meriweather:
If I only had
the January 6
conduct, I
might... But
his behavior
with Pre-Trial
Services, it
made them put
on body armor.
So, he should
be held
pending trial.
Back on
August 20,
there were attempted to
seal, after
the fact,
things that
Copeland said.
Inner City
Press
downloaded,
and live tweeted it, here:
(podcast here)
Judge
Meriweather: I
am going to
issue an order
denying the
government's
request that I
find Mr.
Copeland
incompetent
and commit him
to the custody
of the
Attorney
General. What
should I
redact from
the order?
Inner City
Press
@innercitypress
· 19m Defense:
If any
references to
the
defendant's
statements to
Pre-Trial or
in court at
the initial
hearing I
would ask that
it be under
seal.
[Inner
City Press: No
way - what is
said in court
is public,
cannot be
erased. Or can
it, in DDC?]
AUSA: I
have concerns
about sealing
statements to
probation.
Those aren't
part of the
mental health
evaluation. I
filed a
detention
memo, with
quotes to
Probation
Inner City
Press
@innercitypress
· 14m [Quick
before it
maybe gets
sealed, here's
AUSA Romano's
detention
memo:
Memorandum in
Support of
Pretrial
Detention –
#11 in United
States v.
COPELAND
(D.D.C.,
1:21-mj-0...
MEMORANDUM in
Support of
Pretrial
Detention by
USA as to
LANDON KENNETH
COPELAND
(Romano,
Michael)
(Entered:
08/13/2021)
courtlistener.com
From
the
still-public
detention
memo:
Copeland:
..."lambasted
250,000,000
people as
having some
sort of mental
disease that
tune into the
Tucker Carlson
nightly news
show every
night. I
couldn’t
stand for
that, Your
Honor.” US v.
Copeland,
4:21-mj-30
Previously,
before Judge
Meriweather
and Ms.
Kay: The
Court: Mr.
Copeland. Mr.
Copeland. Ms.
Kay, could you
mute Mr.
Copeland?
The Defendant:
Come get me
fuckers. Come
get me!
Then
(those reading
Inner City
Press' threads
will remember)
Copeland
called back to
swear at the
court again,
accuse “[y]ou
guys”
(presumably,
the Government
and Court) of
“killing your
own people,”
and then hung
up again. Id.
at 30-31. "
Id
indeed.
Here's
the type of
statements
they now
wanted sealed,
from the
still-public
detention
memo, quotes
to
Pretrial
Services
Officer:
Copeland:
“I want to be
heard”; he
also said that
he was at the
edge of a
cliff and
“ready to
finish it.”
(PSO Report at
1.)
From
the
still-public
detention
memo: Copeland
sent his PSO a
text message
saying “Tell
them I want to
speak, or I
will die for
it!” He went
on to say “If
they issue a
warrant, they
will have to
come and get
me, and it
won’t be
easy.” Id.
The May 28
thread:
now
#insurrectionBlues
case of US v.
Landon Kenneth
Copeland.
Judge
Meriweather
said they are
going to go
under seal -
then return?
It's one thing
to briefing go
sealed about
mental health.
But what about
the outcome?
His
lawyer: He
does not
consent to
being present
only by video.
Judge
Meriweather:
I'll seal it
in a minute.
If I defer
ruling under
June 7, he
will remain
incarcerated...
Judge
Meriweather:
Disconnect the
public line.
Voice: You
have been put
in the waiting
room. You
cannot listen
until the host
admits you.
Q: So
does that mean
it will go
back on the
record
afterward?
Isn't the
decision to
seal entirely
up to the
defendant?
Now,
voice: "Your
conference is
ending now. As
requested by
the host,
please hang
up."
Then it
hangs up on
the Press. Is
this really
how it's done?
Are people
supposed to
repeatedly
call back in
to see if it
goes back on
the record,
for this
detained
defendant?
Update:
later on May
28 this was
filed, showing
that the
sealed
conference
went to 3:44
pm. But what
was said?
"Minute Entry
for
proceedings
held before
Magistrate
Judge Robin M.
Meriweather:
VTC Status
Hearing as to
LANDON KENNETH
COPELAND (1)
held on
5/28/2021.
Status Hearing
set for
6/7/2021 at
11:00 AM in
Telephonic/VTC
before
Magistrate
Judge Robin M.
Meriweather.
Bond Status of
Defendant:
Defendant not
Present/Defendant
Remains
Committed;
Court
Reporter:
FTR-Gold; FTR
Time Frame:
CTRM 6
[3:08:00-3:44:00];
Defense
Attorney: Ryan
Stout and
Heather
Shaner; US
Attorney:
Michael
Romano;
Pretrial
Officer: Shay
Holman."
From
May 6: courtroom deputy tells Zoomer
with "expletive as name" to "change your name
or removed." Uh, Cohen v California?
Lawyer for accused insurrectionist
Anthony Antonio tells someone (the
prosecutor), You look like Chris Hayes of
MSNBC. An advocacy tactic? [Seems so - see
below, he bragged about knowing Biden]
Now a "Mister Copeland" on the
multi-defendant call is shouting, I'm in my
car, I have nothing to hide! He is told,
repeatedly, not to talk on the public line. I
have nothing to hide, Copeland says.
Voice: "Can't the clerk mute Mr Copeland?"
Deputy: You're not his lawyer. So, no. Voice:
I'm just a person who wants to get some work
done. Copeland: You are evil!
From DOJ website: "Copeland was arrested on
April 29 and had his initial appearance the
same afternoon. He was released on condition."
Courtroom deputy says Copeland will be
processed last today. Thread will continue
Confirmed: Copeland of "you are evil" is
Landon Kenneth COPELAND, calling in by phone
for initial appearance in DDC,As Judge
Meriweather runs through general condition of
release for other defendants, Copeland cuts in
- "I have questions about my conditions" .. I
am free Deputy: This is not the time for you
to speak.
Deputy: We are not going to get anywhere like
this. We can't have these interruptions, or
we're not going to get through this calendar
today. Copeland: I'll keep my mouth shut, I
promise. Deputy: Or I'll mute you. Copeland:
Yes, ma'am.
Copeland: I just want to ask, if any of this
negotiable? Deputy: You are going to be muted
if you don't stop right now. We'll call on
your lawyer later.
Now processed, with less fanfare, is William
Tryon previously released by a Magistrate
Judge in the Northern District of New York.
His Magistrates' Court case number is lower
than Copeland, but he is not listed on DOJ's
web page of cases.
Another straight forward appearance:
Anthony Antonio. He was living in Delaware but
now working on South Carolina for the past two
months. His lawyer wants a loosening of
conditions of release, says, "I'll keep it to
four minutes or less... My client has no
record"
Anthony Antonio's lawyer says his client
work for a "solar company, Excel." They moved
him to Illinois where, during the lockdown,
"he became hooked on Fox-mania." Copeland: I
would like to object! That's not pertinent!
[These multi-defendant presentments may
not be a good idea - Copeland is objecting to
Antonio's lawyer pleading "Fox-itis"]
Antonio's lawyer: He stood on the steps
exhorting peaceful protest. He smiled at
police. Copeland: I object! Judge: Please mute
Mr. Copeland
Antonio's lawyer: I will remember this hearing
forever. My client came to me on Jan 20. I was
not going to represent anyone from that mess,
I was going to say, "I don't represent you
people." #YouPeople
Antonio's lawyer: I contacted my
Congress-person, to make him available at
impeachment hearing. But they called no
witnesses. [Imagine Copeland on mute]
Antonio's lawyer: Now my client works
for a roofing company in South Carolina. He
has to travel to a seminar, May 15-19 in Utah.
[He could visit Copeland] Antonio's lawyer
calls his client "a cooperating witness with
the FBI." Really?
Says, needs to go to Texas in June and another
one in September. [Particularly bad idea to
have a joint proceeding of a self-declared
cooperating witness with a defendant like
Copeland
Antonio's lawyer is laying it on thick -
says he knows Biden and would ask him to
sponsor him into the DC Bar. Except Biden is
not admitted. Also agrees to waiving Speedy
Trial Act time, so that "the bad guys" can be
prosecuted before his client.
Now as routine insurrection cases from
Kansas are processed, a friend of Copeland
calls in and speaks up. Deputy is referring
her to AT&T listen-only line. But I like
to listen, she says. Copeland is soon:
countdown
Copeland starts with a bang: You people f*cked
this up, he says. "You're going to give me a
psych eval. I don't like 70% of my income
going to the government. F*ck all of you!
Copeland has been muted. Judge: Profanity is
not allowed to be used in court proceedings.
Whatever grievances you have with Federal law
enforcement or the court, this is not the time
to raise it. It does you a dis-service. We
expect order in the court.
Judge: Counsel, if I put you in a break-out
room I could provide it. I would have asked
the Marshals to remove him. We have other
defendants. Lawyer: He might benefit from a
break-out with the attorney he met with in
Utah, Mr. Stout. We don't have a relationship
Mr. Stout: I'm available. Deputy: OK, we'll do
another case first.
Copeland: I wanna talk in open court you
mother f*ckers! Deputy: I thought I had muted
that line.
Update: Judge Meriweather put Copeland
in a breakout room, said proceeding would
resume. Then the AT&T line cut off. Now
both of her lines are on AT&T hold music.
No announcement as to whether Copeland came
back on, or the resolution. Like the withheld
videos...
We will
have more on
this.
Inner
City Press
live tweeted
Riley June
Williams on
January 25, here.
From January
22, song here:
Thread here.
Inner City
Press' John Earle Sullivan
song on SoundCloud here.
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